notes from Energy Optimized A/C PC notes - January 10, 2006 - a.m.


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Energy Optimized Aircraft and Equipment PC meeting  (for American English 
speakers)
Energy Optimised Aircraft and Equipment PC meeting  (for British English 
speakers )


Notes: T. Takahashi (MDO t/c liasion)

ATTENDENCE

approx. 30 members....  (apologies on spelling)

Dimitri Mavris is the chair
Lester Fallero - deputy chair (European power optimised a/c) - Liebherr 
Aerospace
Elena Garcia - Ga.Tech (grad student)
Ki-young Chung - GE Avations
Danielle Soban - ASDL - AD Tech Com
Stephen Collicott - Purdue
Dave Quick - Rolls Royce
Taro Shimizu - sumitomo (japan)
Yosho  Taoka  sumitomo  (japan)
David Blanding - Boeing Phantom Works - tech. elec. thermal
Joe Brayton - Sys. Concept Boeing Commercial
Amit Kulshreshtha- Moog - Moorepark, Ca.
David Aronstein - Raytheon Aircraft 
Timothy Takahashi - Raytheon Missile Systems - MDO TC Liason
Lou Galto - Raytheon Missile Systems
Richard Gaeta - GTRI
David Moorehouse - USAF AFRL / VA - Multidisciplinary Tech
Mario Rinaldi - Hamilton Sunstrand - more electric 
Rick Welch - Hamilton Sunstrand -  systems, pwr
Tom I - Cessna
Grant Bradbury - Goodrich Power Systems - UK
Jean-Jacques ???? - Hispano Suiza? (france)
John Gallman - Cessna - Advanced Tech.
John Dickey - Airbus North America
Gary S??? - Chief Aeronautics - NASA/GLenn
Sing Tak Lee  - S Korea
Kurt Schofeld(?) - Honeywell Aerospace
Blanch ### - Ohio Aerospace 
Judy ####  - AEDC
Mike Piszczor - NASA Glenn - Aerospace Power Systems TC Liason
Jim McMichael - GTRI 
Tony Gross - NASA/Ames - AIAA program committee 
Brett Barson -
Wayne ### - Pratt & Whitney - dir AIAA prop group

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meeting commences 9:00am

Agenda -
 Introduction - Dr. Tony Gross


 Formation of EOAsysPC
 Presentations from Committee Memebrs
 
Discussion
- Charter and Vision
- Membership Expectations
- Conference INssues
- Formation of Subcommitees
- Idenification of Issues
- Action Items
- Next meeting

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(detailed notes follow)

Agenda -
 Introduction - Dr. Tony Gross
   what is AIAA - overview charts -

 Formation of EOAsysPC
 - originated by Dr. Falerio.... a complement to the Power Optimized 
Aircraft Program (POA) and More/All Electric Aircraft (AEA/AEA) and
       more Electric Engine (MEE) technologies
 - kickoff in Rome, Italy (not NY, Italy has better food  and sightseeing)
 - Program Committee - common interests but very diverse expertise - 
limited life expectancy of the group
 - Goal: more electric to reduce life cycle cost (LCC)... need to optimize 
subsystems 
 - Plan - 2 meetings per year - Reno + venue in Europe + 2 telecons
 - proposed TC collaboration - Aircraft Design, Aircraft Opts, GA, VSTOL, 
MDO, Economics, Airbreathing Prop, Aerospace Pwr Sys, Systems Eng.
 - need for systems / systems-of-systems focus in design of subsystems 

Presentations from Committee Members
- Mike Piszczor - NASA/Glenn - solicitation for 4th IECEC conference in 
San Diego
- Cessna - J. Gallman -  Energy Optimized A/C Equipment Systems 
   - company overview - Textron, dog-n-pony show - 
   -biz jet utilization ~ 300-500 hrs / yr << typical commerical transport
  - purchase price + performance typically more important than operating 
cost; dispatch reliability is *key*
  - energy optimization leads to weight reduction / increased performance 
  - Cessna seeking dialog w/ equipment suppliers... opportunities for 
electric de-ice, environmental control systems
- Liebherr Aerospace - Lester Faliero
   - company overview - German - cranes / refrigerators - now Swiss based 
- Aerospace unit in Toulouse, France (branches in Germany, Austria, 
Brasil)
   - aerospace business - flight control, control actuations, landing 
grear systems - business on A380, A400M shown 
   - desire not to duplicate, but need to focus and coordinate power 
systems w/ actuators, ECS, etc. for aerospace systems development

- Boeing - D. Blanding



- Airbus - John Dickle
- Goodrich - Bradbury
- Hamilton Sunstrand - Rick Welch
- Hispano-Suiza - J-J Char
- Honeywell -]Kurt S.
- GE - Kiyang Chung
- Pratt and Whitney - Wayne Herwitz
- Rolls Royce - David Quick
- HANWHA Corp - Sing Tack Lee
- Sumitomo - Yoshio
- Moog - Amit
- USAF - AFRL- David Moorehouse

Discussion
- Charter and Vision
- Membership Expectations
- Conference INssues
- Formation of Subcommitees
- Idenification of Issues
- Action Items
- Next meeting








Timothy Takahashi, Ph.D
Sr. Principal Engineer
Aeromechanics Design Department
Raytheon Missile Systems
PO Box 11337
Tucson, AZ 85734-1337
520.545.9747 NEW PHONE
Timothy_T_Takahashi@Raytheon.com 


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<br><font size=6 face="sans-serif"><b><i>Energy Optimized Aircraft and
Equipment PC meeting &nbsp;(for American English speakers)</i></b></font>
<br><font size=6 face="sans-serif"><b><i>Energy Optimised Aircraft and
Equipment PC meeting &nbsp;(for British English speakers )</i></b></font>
<br>
<br>
<br><font size=3 face="sans-serif">Notes: T. Takahashi (MDO t/c liasion)</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3 face="sans-serif">ATTENDENCE</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3 face="sans-serif">approx. 30 members.... &nbsp;(apologies
on spelling)</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3 face="sans-serif">Dimitri Mavris is the chair</font>
<br><font size=3 face="sans-serif">Lester Fallero - deputy chair (European
power optimised a/c) - Liebherr Aerospace</font>
<br><font size=3 face="sans-serif">Elena Garcia - Ga.Tech (grad student)</font>
<br><font size=3 face="sans-serif">Ki-young Chung - GE Avations</font>
<br><font size=3 face="sans-serif">Danielle Soban - ASDL - AD Tech Com</font>
<br><font size=3 face="sans-serif">Stephen Collicott - Purdue</font>
<br><font size=3 face="sans-serif">Dave Quick - Rolls Royce</font>
<br><font size=3 face="sans-serif">Taro Shimizu - sumitomo (japan)</font>
<br><font size=3 face="sans-serif">Yosho &nbsp;Taoka &nbsp;sumitomo &nbsp;(japan)</font>
<br><font size=3 face="sans-serif">David Blanding - Boeing Phantom Works
- tech. elec. thermal</font>
<br><font size=3 face="sans-serif">Joe Brayton - Sys. Concept Boeing Commercial</font>
<br><font size=3 face="sans-serif">Amit Kulshreshtha- Moog - Moorepark,
Ca.</font>
<br><font size=3 face="sans-serif">David Aronstein - Raytheon Aircraft
</font>
<br><font size=3 face="sans-serif">Timothy Takahashi - Raytheon Missile
Systems - MDO TC Liason</font>
<br><font size=3 face="sans-serif">Lou Galto - Raytheon Missile Systems</font>
<br><font size=3 face="sans-serif">Richard Gaeta - GTRI</font>
<br><font size=3 face="sans-serif">David Moorehouse - USAF AFRL / VA -
Multidisciplinary Tech</font>
<br><font size=3 face="sans-serif">Mario Rinaldi - Hamilton Sunstrand -
more electric </font>
<br><font size=3 face="sans-serif">Rick Welch - Hamilton Sunstrand - &nbsp;systems,
pwr</font>
<br><font size=3 face="sans-serif">Tom I - Cessna</font>
<br><font size=3 face="sans-serif">Grant Bradbury - Goodrich Power Systems
- UK</font>
<br><font size=3 face="sans-serif">Jean-Jacques ???? - Hispano Suiza? (france)</font>
<br><font size=3 face="sans-serif">John Gallman - Cessna - Advanced Tech.</font>
<br><font size=3 face="sans-serif">John Dickey - Airbus North America</font>
<br><font size=3 face="sans-serif">Gary S??? - Chief Aeronautics - NASA/GLenn</font>
<br><font size=3 face="sans-serif">Sing Tak Lee &nbsp;- S Korea</font>
<br><font size=3 face="sans-serif">Kurt Schofeld(?) - Honeywell Aerospace</font>
<br><font size=3 face="sans-serif">Blanch ### - Ohio Aerospace </font>
<br><font size=3 face="sans-serif">Judy #### &nbsp;- AEDC</font>
<br><font size=3 face="sans-serif">Mike Piszczor - NASA Glenn - Aerospace
Power Systems TC Liason</font>
<br><font size=3 face="sans-serif">Jim McMichael - GTRI </font>
<br><font size=3 face="sans-serif">Tony Gross - NASA/Ames - AIAA program
committee </font>
<br><font size=3 face="sans-serif">Brett Barson -</font>
<br><font size=3 face="sans-serif">Wayne ### - Pratt &amp; Whitney - dir
AIAA prop group</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3 face="sans-serif">.</font>
<br><font size=3 face="sans-serif">.</font>
<br><font size=3 face="sans-serif">.</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3 face="sans-serif">meeting commences 9:00am</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3 face="sans-serif">Agenda -</font>
<br><font size=3 face="sans-serif">&nbsp;Introduction - Dr. Tony Gross</font>
<br>
<br>
<br><font size=3 face="sans-serif">&nbsp;Formation of EOAsysPC</font>
<br><font size=3 face="sans-serif">&nbsp;Presentations from Committee Memebrs</font>
<br><font size=3 face="sans-serif">&nbsp;</font>
<br><font size=3 face="sans-serif">Discussion</font>
<br><font size=3 face="sans-serif">- Charter and Vision</font>
<br><font size=3 face="sans-serif">- Membership Expectations</font>
<br><font size=3 face="sans-serif">- Conference INssues</font>
<br><font size=3 face="sans-serif">- Formation of Subcommitees</font>
<br><font size=3 face="sans-serif">- Idenification of Issues</font>
<br><font size=3 face="sans-serif">- Action Items</font>
<br><font size=3 face="sans-serif">- Next meeting</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3 face="sans-serif">.</font>
<br><font size=3 face="sans-serif">.</font>
<br><font size=3 face="sans-serif">.</font>
<br><font size=3 face="sans-serif">.</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3 face="sans-serif">(detailed notes follow)</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3 face="sans-serif">Agenda -</font>
<br><font size=3 face="sans-serif">&nbsp;Introduction - Dr. Tony Gross</font>
<br><font size=3 face="sans-serif">&nbsp; &nbsp;what is AIAA - overview
charts -</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3 face="sans-serif">&nbsp;Formation of EOAsysPC</font>
<br><font size=3 face="sans-serif">&nbsp;- originated by Dr. Falerio....
a complement to the Power Optimized Aircraft Program (POA) and More/All
Electric Aircraft (AEA/AEA) and</font>
<br><font size=3 face="sans-serif">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;more Electric
Engine (MEE) technologies</font>
<br><font size=3 face="sans-serif">&nbsp;- kickoff in Rome, Italy (not
NY, Italy has better food &nbsp;and sightseeing)</font>
<br><font size=3 face="sans-serif">&nbsp;- Program Committee - common interests
but very diverse expertise - limited life expectancy of the group</font>
<br><font size=3 face="sans-serif">&nbsp;- Goal: more electric to reduce
life cycle cost (LCC)... need to optimize subsystems </font>
<br><font size=3 face="sans-serif">&nbsp;- Plan - 2 meetings per year -
Reno + venue in Europe + 2 telecons</font>
<br><font size=3 face="sans-serif">&nbsp;- proposed TC collaboration -
Aircraft Design, Aircraft Opts, GA, VSTOL, MDO, Economics, Airbreathing
Prop, Aerospace Pwr Sys, Systems Eng.</font>
<br><font size=3 face="sans-serif">&nbsp;- need for systems / systems-of-systems
focus in design of subsystems &nbsp;</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3 face="sans-serif">Presentations from Committee Members</font>
<br><font size=3 face="sans-serif">- Mike Piszczor - NASA/Glenn - solicitation
for 4th IECEC conference in San Diego</font>
<br><font size=3 face="sans-serif">- Cessna - J. Gallman - &nbsp;Energy
Optimized A/C Equipment Systems </font>
<br><font size=3 face="sans-serif">&nbsp; &nbsp;- company overview - Textron,
dog-n-pony show - </font>
<br><font size=3 face="sans-serif">&nbsp; &nbsp;-biz jet utilization ~
300-500 hrs / yr &lt;&lt; typical commerical transport</font>
<br><font size=3 face="sans-serif">&nbsp; - purchase price + performance
typically more important than operating cost; dispatch reliability is *key*</font>
<br><font size=3 face="sans-serif">&nbsp; - energy optimization leads to
weight reduction / increased performance </font>
<br><font size=3 face="sans-serif">&nbsp; - Cessna seeking dialog w/ equipment
suppliers... opportunities for electric de-ice, environmental control systems</font>
<br><font size=3 face="sans-serif">- Liebherr Aerospace - Lester Faliero</font>
<br><font size=3 face="sans-serif">&nbsp; &nbsp;- company overview - German
- cranes / refrigerators - now Swiss based - Aerospace unit in Toulouse,
France (branches in Germany, Austria, Brasil)</font>
<br><font size=3 face="sans-serif">&nbsp; &nbsp;- aerospace business -
flight control, control actuations, landing grear systems - business on
A380, A400M shown </font>
<br><font size=3 face="sans-serif">&nbsp; &nbsp;- desire not to duplicate,
but need to focus and coordinate power systems w/ actuators, ECS, etc.
for aerospace systems development</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3 face="sans-serif">- Boeing - D. Blanding</font>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br><font size=3 face="sans-serif">- Airbus - John Dickle</font>
<br><font size=3 face="sans-serif">- Goodrich - Bradbury</font>
<br><font size=3 face="sans-serif">- Hamilton Sunstrand - Rick Welch</font>
<br><font size=3 face="sans-serif">- Hispano-Suiza - J-J Char</font>
<br><font size=3 face="sans-serif">- Honeywell -]Kurt S.</font>
<br><font size=3 face="sans-serif">- GE - Kiyang Chung</font>
<br><font size=3 face="sans-serif">- Pratt and Whitney - Wayne Herwitz</font>
<br><font size=3 face="sans-serif">- Rolls Royce - David Quick</font>
<br><font size=3 face="sans-serif">- HANWHA Corp - Sing Tack Lee</font>
<br><font size=3 face="sans-serif">- Sumitomo - Yoshio</font>
<br><font size=3 face="sans-serif">- Moog - Amit</font>
<br><font size=3 face="sans-serif">- USAF - AFRL- David Moorehouse</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3 face="sans-serif">Discussion</font>
<br><font size=3 face="sans-serif">- Charter and Vision</font>
<br><font size=3 face="sans-serif">- Membership Expectations</font>
<br><font size=3 face="sans-serif">- Conference INssues</font>
<br><font size=3 face="sans-serif">- Formation of Subcommitees</font>
<br><font size=3 face="sans-serif">- Idenification of Issues</font>
<br><font size=3 face="sans-serif">- Action Items</font>
<br><font size=3 face="sans-serif">- Next meeting</font>
<br>
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Ph.D</b></font><font size=1 color=#666666 face="Arial"><br>
Sr. Principal Engineer<br>
Aeromechanics Design Department<br>
Raytheon Missile Systems<br>
PO Box 11337<br>
Tucson, AZ 85734-1337<br>
520.545.9747 NEW PHONE<u><br>
</u></font><a href=mailto:Timothy_T_Takahashi@Raytheon.com><font size=1 color=#666666 face="Arial"><u>Timothy_T_Takahashi@Raytheon.com</u></font></a><font size=1 color=#666666 face="Arial">
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